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What's The Foundation?

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According to a recent poll done in the group, you guys think we should change up SAP, try to improve it, and begin anew.


But how do we do that?


Say SAP is a house, what is it's foundation?


What's it built with?



Which is more important, RP or building?


Is personal enjoyment the priority or should we all collectively have shared moments of enjoyment?


Is it OK if I nuke someone or I do something outrageously unrealistic? What if everyone, or myself at the least, is having fun?


Do we start small and expand or do we start big and try hard to fill in all the abundant space as we go along?


Are things complex or are they simple?


Universe, Galaxy, or System?


Would it take you years to cross the galaxy, weeks, days, or mere seconds?


Could I wipe you out if I wanted to? Could you wipe me out? What if we take a few prisoners to put in our royal zoo but kill off everyone else, our race lives on but our society does not, is that OK?


Is peace boring or is it nice? Or is it both and the fact it's boring is what makes it ncie?


Is war chaotic or is it fun? Or is it both and the chaos is what's so fun?


Third Person or First Person?


There is so much we can and should consider and think about as we look at the SAP, as we try to improve it and create essentially SAP 2.0, so where do we begin? Or do we look at as much as possible all at once?



What do you think? Anything you want to get to? Anywhere you think SAP 1.0 really failed at?

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XxOVERKILLxX wrote:
Neo15243
Texar96 wrote:
Tank6000 wrote:
Also known as The Butterfly Effect.
The Butterfly Effect just goes along the lines of 'step on a butterfly, change all of history', it doesn't necessarily conclude that one's very presense disrupts the timeline right?

Like, if you can go back in time without stepping on anything, without being seen, etcetera etcetera but yet the mere fact you went back in time disrupts the timeline.

Unfortunately, it's theoretically impossible to travel faster than the speed of light, but psychologically feel like you're going faster than the speed of light. :U
We didnt mention Speed Of Light. e.e. I seriously feel you're here to troll me. 
Not in the bit he quoted, no, but before it I did.
Hmm, well, there CAN be something that can go AS FAST as the speed of light

But never, ever will there be anything that goes FASTER than the speed of light, no matter how hard we try. Also, im renaming my failed yangari virus thing to Omega parasite, details will be in the rp -IF WE EVER GET TO IT LOL-

Can something go as fast as the speed of light? :U It could reach near the speed of light. 

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The speed of light is terribly sluggish making it a imperative that it be surpassed.

FTL is possible.

Apparent or effective FTL.

Wikipedia is a fun source:

Faster-than-light (also superluminal or FTL) communications and travel refer to the propagation of information or matter faster than the speed of light. Under the special theory of relativity, a particle (that has rest mass) with subluminal velocity needs infinite energy to accelerate to the speed of light, although special relativity does not forbid the existence of particles that travel faster than light at all times (tachyons).

On the other hand, what some physicists refer to as "apparent" or "effective" FTL[1][2][3][4] depends on the hypothesis that unusually distorted regions of spacetime might permit matter to reach distant locations in less time than light could in normal or undistorted spacetime. Although according to current theories matter is still required to travel subluminally with respect to the locally distorted spacetime region, apparent FTL is not excluded by general relativity.

Examples of FTL proposals are the Alcubierre drive, and the traversable wormhole, although the physical plausibility of some of these solutions is uncertain.

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We've really digressed...
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XxOVERKILLxX wrote:

im renaming my failed yangari virus thing to Omega parasite, details will be in the rp -IF WE EVER GET TO IT LOL-

Please, gods, just don't, just stop.

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Texar96 wrote:
The speed of light is terribly sluggish making it a imperative that it be surpassed.

FTL is possible.

Apparent or effective FTL.

Wikipedia is a fun source:


Faster-than-light (also superluminal or FTL) communications and travel refer to the propagation of information or matter faster than the speed of light. Under the special theory of relativity, a particle (that has rest mass) with subluminal velocity needs infinite energy to accelerate to the speed of light, although special relativity does not forbid the existence of particles that travel faster than light at all times (tachyons).


On the other hand, what some physicists refer to as "apparent" or "effective" FTL[1][2][3][4] depends on the hypothesis that unusually distorted regions of spacetime might permit matter to reach distant locations in less time than light could in normal or undistorted spacetime. Although according to current theories matter is still required to travel subluminally with respect to the locally distorted spacetime region, apparent FTL is not excluded by general relativity.

Examples of FTL proposals are the Alcubierre drive, and the traversable wormhole, although the physical plausibility of some of these solutions is uncertain.

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I meant in terms of thrust instead of distorted spacetime. If we were able to create wormholes or even control the distortion of spacetime itself, then this RP won't be fun. 

Neo15243 wrote:

I meant in terms of thrust instead of distorted spacetime. If we were able to create wormholes or even control the distortion of spacetime itself, then this RP won't be fun. 

You're no fun :L. You try to prove things in a fictional place. :L

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Neo15243 wrote:

If we were able to create wormholes or even control the distortion of spacetime itself, then this RP won't be fun. 

Slower than light travel is an unrealistic (as in you can do it but good luck with that bud) way to get arounf in space, few would have the patience to reasonably play out a several year, decade, century, etc. trip, especially if it's a relatively short trip to, say, a near-by star system.

FTL travel is a necessity for not only science fiction but for space travel in general, we will never leave our system without the means to really do so, even if we were to pursue something such as generational ships we will never make much progress sending out groups of people who are likely never to be heard from again and who very well could be dead and us unaware and none the less such means still remain quite undesireable in a RP.

I honestly fail to see your point as, if anything, the very lack of things such as wormholes or warp drives or what have you is what would make the RP no longer be fun, if we're sticking to an interstellar environment at least, the only way not having FTL means of travel would really work out is if we're all confined to a single system but...

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Texar96 wrote:
Neo15243 wrote:

If we were able to create wormholes or even control the distortion of spacetime itself, then this RP won't be fun. 

Slower than light travel is an unrealistic (as in you can do it but good luck with that bud) way to get arounf in space, few would have the patience to reasonably play out a several year, decade, century, etc. trip, especially if it's a relatively short trip to, say, a near-by star system.

FTL travel is a necessity for not only science fiction but for space travel in general, we will never leave our system without the means to really do so, even if we were to pursue something such as generational ships we will never make much progress sending out groups of people who are likely never to be heard from again and who very well could be dead and us unaware and none the less such means still remain quite undesireable in a RP.

I honestly fail to see your point as, if anything, the very lack of things such as wormholes or warp drives or what have you is what would make the RP no longer be fun, if we're sticking to an interstellar environment at least, the only way not having FTL means of travel would really work out is if we're all confined to a single system but...

But then people would just make "black hole bombs" and destroy worlds, if not systems. q.q

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Neo15243 wrote:
Texar96 wrote:
Neo15243 wrote:

If we were able to create wormholes or even control the distortion of spacetime itself, then this RP won't be fun. 

Slower than light travel is an unrealistic (as in you can do it but good luck with that bud) way to get arounf in space, few would have the patience to reasonably play out a several year, decade, century, etc. trip, especially if it's a relatively short trip to, say, a near-by star system.

FTL travel is a necessity for not only science fiction but for space travel in general, we will never leave our system without the means to really do so, even if we were to pursue something such as generational ships we will never make much progress sending out groups of people who are likely never to be heard from again and who very well could be dead and us unaware and none the less such means still remain quite undesireable in a RP.

I honestly fail to see your point as, if anything, the very lack of things such as wormholes or warp drives or what have you is what would make the RP no longer be fun, if we're sticking to an interstellar environment at least, the only way not having FTL means of travel would really work out is if we're all confined to a single system but...

But then people would just make "black hole bombs" and destroy worlds, if not systems. q.q

I'm saying that if we have the technology to manipulate or control wormholes, we can create weapons of infinite amounts of chaos. 

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Neo15243 wrote:

But then people would just make "black hole bombs" and destroy worlds, if not systems. q.q

We'd never allow that, all technology can have negative uses depending on how you look at them and how they're utilized, we teckled this dilemia most notably over the 20th century (and still today) with the ever pressing question of "to bomb or to power?" in way of nuclear technology.


Travel: Yay.

Bomb: Nay.

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